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Fractal boards: a new way to organize

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June 10, 2020

Fractal boards offer a new way to organize information, building upon the concept of boards popularized by Trello. It’s a different and powerful take on this familiar concept, and it’s already changing the way Workflowy users organize their brains.

You can play with a demo on this page: https://workflowy.com/post/fractal-boards/

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Gort Klaatu
Gort Klaatu
1 year ago

Workflowy is IMPOSSIBLE to use! I paid $49.00 a year ago and still
can NOT use Workflowy!! I can see the subjects but can NOT enter and
data or information. Enter + Tab doe NOTHING! Impossible to enter any
data or information. No help from Workflowy. * Gort Klaatu –
secretconcepts@gmail.com

Narissa Hill
Narissa Hill
2 years ago

This looks like an amazing feature. Unfortunately, in the tutorial, you didn’t show us how to actually create a fractal board instead of a regular board. So each time I go to insert a board amongst bullets, my whole page gets turned into boards.

Aslan
2 years ago

I just changed phones and now I can’t access this view on the mobile app anymore. Has it been removed?

Rodolfo Lopez
Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Aslan

Hey Aslan, nope, boards are still there. Do you mean you can’t create boards on mobile?

Anastasia
3 years ago

That’s amazing! I don’t use kanban system, but these boards are great for better use of space and making things more visible. What i like most is that, unlike Trello, you can have severa boards on one page, like this:comment image
Now I just can’t wait to have this feature on mobile. I mostly work from my tablet, and then Workflowy will be perfect for me.

Анастасия
3 years ago
Reply to  Anastasia

I want to add, it would be useful if we could change column width. I found the way to do it with Stylish, but it doesn’t work in desktop app. Sometimes I use only two or three columns, and thin columns don’t look good on the wide screen.

haplomephistos
haplomephistos
3 years ago

First, I want to say that Workflowy and it’s fractal design is like nothing else I have ever seen. It is innovative and EXACTLY what I am looking for in a tool. I can’t say enough good things about it’s simplicity in design that provides power that I had never even dreamed of being possible. It truly makes it trivial to dump your brain into something manageable! It meshes so well with how I bullet journal.

My primary questions keep coming back to security of my data. I’m not going to presume that I have any whiz-bang ideas that need to be sheltered, but my primary concern with the tool lies in knowing my data is securely encrypted and unable to be seen by ANY eyes. I have read the privacy documentation on end-to-end encryption, and data-at-rest, but it implies that workflowy servers can access the data at any time they deem it appropriate.

I understand that many companies have processes in place that prevent employees from viewing data. Rogue employees are a bit more of a concern, but my real concern lies in unexpected, unauthorized access by a third party through unexpected exploits, etc. While the idea that an employee could start looking at my lists is concerning, the thought of a more targeted attack from an outside party concerns me more.

If I did have a whiz-bang idea that could revolutionize the world, and I wanted to build a company around it, what is to prevent a sophisticated third-party from accessing my data? Or a rogue employee?

Even if I did not have a whiz-bang idea, how can I confirm that what I put into workflowy isn’t accessed so someone can understand my life in ways that are very personal? Eating habits, appointments, family habits, things we do for fun, pets, etc.

Finally, the same question holds true for me wanting to use workflowy for work-related projects. If I wanted to use the excellent workflowy technology to track my projects, thoughts, and entire work-life, how can I convince my employer that the data is safe?

You have the most amazing tool I have ever seen for tracking everything, and now that you have fractals boards, my head spins with excitement. But still, these questions linger. I am a paid subscriber, and I and many of my colleagues would love to better understand how we can validate our data is secure from unintended eyes so that we can use the tool with abandon.

Great work on everything you do! You have something here you should be really proud of, and I am extremely excited about!

Regards,

Haplo

Bill Hughes
Bill Hughes
3 years ago

Jesse and team, this is a great addition. I was wondering what y’all were up to, this answers that question nicely. Great work.

frank.dg
frank.dg
3 years ago
Reply to  Bill Hughes

What we’re up to is on the up and up. Stay posted!

frank.dg
frank.dg
3 years ago

To activate boards, you can do this in one of two ways. In the installed desktop app or browser app:

1. You can click on the boards/ list toggle icon top right of your page, to the left of the star icon (In any zoomed-in list – not on your home page)

2. You can click on the 3-dot bullet menu to the left of any bullet > Bullets/ Board icon at the top of the popup menu.

If you’re using an older version of the desktop app, you’ll need to download and install the latest version here:

https://www.workflowy.com/downloads/

Here’s a video you can re-watch: https://beta.workflowy.com/post/fractal-boards/

Erica Martin
3 years ago

This looks great, but maybe I’m missing something. How od you make a board in Workflowy?

Name
Name
3 years ago
Reply to  Erica Martin

You just switch any node to board view and back, from top right corner.

Sean L
Sean L
3 years ago

It is so cool to have this feature on it. I think I’m gonna rely on workflowy more for my life and work. By the way, I have been using trello for a while.

Mark Koekemoer
Mark Koekemoer
3 years ago

I’m unable to move a node between columns, when I do it just moves below the above node. Any ideas why? Love the boards feature!

Mark
Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark Koekemoer

Ah ok I figured it out, looks like I couldn’t move a node to a blank column – it needed an existing node or blank node to move another node there.

frank.dg
frank.dg
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

We’ve fixed this!

saw
saw
3 years ago

You mentioned in the video about ‘other types’ which coming. A bit more about, please? Have you got any roadmap in fractal boards? 🙂

frank.dg
frank.dg
3 years ago
Reply to  saw

There are rumors of presentation mode, grid view…

brastra
brastra
3 years ago

Possible to move items between columns with the keyboard?

Charles Caermichael
Charles Caermichael
3 years ago
Reply to  brastra

Wait, I don’t see in the Demo how to make one on my own Workflowy account? How does one go about making one??

Franco
Franco
3 years ago

I can only say: WOW!!
Congratulations Jesse! A very smart implementation of the Kanban concept.
I will no longer miss Trello for certain use cases.

Thanks

frank.dg
frank.dg
3 years ago
Reply to  Franco

Franco, what would it take for WorkFlowy to take on all of your Trello use cases?

BG
BG
3 years ago
Reply to  frank.dg

API !!!

Franco
Franco
3 years ago
Reply to  frank.dg

Hi Frank
WF with Boards takes over pretty all of my use cases in Trello.
With the WF daily email, with the changes applied to shared nodes, I don’t even miss the chat string attached to the single tasks in Trello.

For sure, the Nirvana would be to have some COLOURS to tag the different tasks / columns.

Thanks
F

Earl Richardson
Earl Richardson
3 years ago

Jesse, great job! I absolutely love how you’ve kept Workflowy’s minimalist look and feel over all the years while adding some great, useful features, such as these boards. Please don’t ever stop that. So much of the software for personal or business organization nowadays needs a Ph.D to figure it out. For me, the absolute last thing in my life I want to be complicated or cluttered is my process for organizing my life. That’s one reason why I love Workflowy. Thanks again! – Earl

frank.dg
frank.dg
3 years ago

Always great to get WorkFlowy praise from a familiar face 🙂

Dirk Becker
3 years ago

Wow! That’s exactly what i was looking for. Until now I used workflowy as my personal tool. I liked Frank Degenaars Kanban-tutorial, but without a real kanban-view I found it too nerdy to introduce Workflowy as a project-management-tool for teams in my architects-office. Now I will. That combination of outlines and kanban looks very powerful to me. Love it!
And i really appreciate, that you manage to keep that minimalist clean “look and feel” when introducing new features. Hope the mobile apps will be updated soo.
Keep up the good work!
Dirk

Karl
3 years ago

This is truly amazing. Like WOW WOW WOW. I’ve always been a major evangelist of your product. These boards I believe has opened up the next frontier wave of adoption for Workflowy. Jesse you are are so understated and humble. It’s so simple yet so sophisticated. 10 years in and like nature it never stops growing….we are very lucky people.

Alphonzo68
Alphonzo68
3 years ago

… an exaggerately cool feature, I hope I will be smart enough to use that. BTW how did you set up the embedded link to LOOM website in the WF document? Thanks

Hermann
Hermann
3 years ago

I love the boards!

Bartosz Grabowski
Bartosz Grabowski
3 years ago

As I wrote before – boards melted my mind with possibilities and ‘cleanness’, thank You for them! 🙂

Just one request thought – please make ‘Ctrl+Space’ shortcut work for boards (collapsing selected board). pretty pretty please 🙂

quantumgood
3 years ago

Is there a “best practices” guide for someone starting Workflowy anywhere? There are so many older guides (e.g. “…Way Way More…” 2.0) and tweaks, it is as if we have to research for hours to create our own guide just to get started.

Earl Richardson
Earl Richardson
3 years ago
Reply to  quantumgood

I’ll take a stab at your question. Other than search You-tube videos on Workflowy, perhaps the Workflowy blog may be a good ‘best practices guide’. To me, the beauty of Workflowy is its simplicity and adaptability. Unlike so much other software out there, Workflowy doesn’t force or constrain you into the mold or the mindset of the software developer. It’s so simple you really don’t need a ‘user manual’.

With just a small bit of creativity, you can use Workflowy to organize your entire life the way you want, including tasks, appointments, notes, and just about anything else. I’ve used my Workflowy over the years to follow David Allen’s Getting Things Done methodology, and his Five Stages of mastering your workflow. And Jesse’s recent additions of Boards lets users follow Kanban principles. I’ve also successfully used Workflowy’s ‘Shared’ function for collaborative work with others around the country.

A big premise of David Allen in his GTD methodology is: “Your brain is a great creativity tool, but a lousy storage device”. So his philosophy is that you get every random thoughts that come into your brain out of your brain, and into an effective storage device, that can help you can filter, process, connect, and organize those thoughts any way you wish. Think of Workflowy as that storage device.

So to start, I suggest you get those random thoughts that constantly come into your life out of your head, and into Workflowy, and experiment with its tags, unlimited hierarchy, and rapid search function. Just start typing away.

Nishra
Nishra
3 years ago

Great response! I recently read GTD, but haven’t successfully implemented the method/system into my Workflowy yet. I’m very curious about how you’ve done it. Care to share? 🙂

addfaststart
addfaststart
3 years ago

OK, please forgive me as I don’t normally reply with *Cool! Jeez! Got it! throwaway comments….BUT: *

*Wow! **Wow! Wow! *

Best regards, Wayne *Wickford, RI*

frank.dg
frank.dg
3 years ago
Reply to  addfaststart

We feel your excitement. The excitement is mutual!

tadabard
3 years ago

I don’t see how to get this to work in iOS. Am I missing something?

Frank Degenaar (@ProMashUp)
Reply to  tadabard

Sorry! Mobile is currently not activated… but fairly soon 🙂

Hermann
Hermann
3 years ago

The boards work in Safari on iPad

Eric
Eric
3 years ago

I can see the boards on a browser on my iPad but I just can’t move the nodes/cards around at all: when I tap and hold the link preview pop-up comes up instead. If there’s a way to fix this so I can move the nodes around please let me know. Loving this on desktop and looking forward to it working on iOS/iPadOS!

Eric
Eric
3 years ago

My comment above is in reference to using Safari on iPad. The iOS/iPadOS WorkFlowy app does not show boards at all (it just shows them as bullets). I would love to be able to use it on safari or another web browser so I can use the WF beta. Thanks!

Scott Winterroth
3 years ago

Love! Love the new fractical “Kaban” boards and how you used WordFlowy as your video’s visual. I’m going to steal that for my videos! 🙂

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